Thursday, August 27, 2009

Scary really Scary

Scary really Scary

Faults the Supreme Court and Constitution


Thursday, August 20, 2009

Health Insurance reform without the jizz


Let's cutout the trash talking, here are the stated issues, anything else is a scam on the American People by a socialist elite!!

1) Previous Illness
2) Citizen owns insurance policy
3) Caps on payments
4) Policy provisions and understandin...g/clarity
5) Tort reform from Ambulance to hospital to Drug MFG to equipment MFG
6) Aprx 12 million uninsured
7) National groups, eliminate state restrictions
8) Emergency room (illegals etc) compensation when greater than a certain ratio at hospital.
9) Medicaid and Medicare financing and SS (tax all of salary)

At 10 pages an issue this should take 90 pages I DONT WANT TO SEE THE OTHER 920 that hide funds for ACORN and Greenies and all the other crap.

1) Previous Illness

There are 1300 insurance companies in this country 60% are non-profit. All insurance companies will establish a plan with minimum coverage to be specified.


$2,000,000 lifetime cap
$2000 a year deductible.
Specified Co-pays.
Certain procedures may be excluded such as abortions, breast implants, plastic surgery not from any trama.
The rate may vary from company to company specified.

Sunday, August 16, 2009

Who Is Obama going to be?

What do we mean by trash talking, here is a GOOD EXAMPLE
He dosnt SAY ANYTHING, but it sounds good and has a feel good feeling to it.


Let's say I am right and Obama is a well entrenched trash taking Chicago thug Community Organizing mob politician. Now he has seen a little more of the PEOPLE. Now he is well aware that the world in Chicago isn't Representative of the country. Maybe now he sees that Democratic governance by democrats in Detroit et al hasn't worked. Maybe he see that all of the special interest groups like ACORN and UNIONS arnt really making America better or wealthier or in the tradition of American exceptional ism. Maybe he can start to see the extraordinary freedom Americans enjoy and can see their individualism as they stand up and tell their PRESIDENT that they disagree with him.

Maybe he can see somestates like Texas and Montana and Louisiana doing some what better with their conservative philosophies.

And there is that gal with her shotgun or hunting bow who is just as rough and ready as our homesteading forefathers. These are americans of every stripe and flavor. Obviously campaign stints where you are idolized arnt really representative of America.

Maybe it's an America from Sea to shiny Sea that he didnt understand. Maybe the first six months has been a mistake as he succummed to Pelosi, Franks, Dodd and Reid. Anyone can see how shallow and mealy mouthed these people are AND HOW HATEFUL.

Does Obama really want to wear their colors? Do we want to build an elitest autocracy that is entrenched in power by organizations like ACORN. Do we want to install a government on the people that they dont want? Are you commited to a anarchist group like ACORN, Did you really want to steal GM and Chrysler from the lawful owners and give it to Unions? Are you really so entrenched in socialist anti American doctrine that you want to see us a socialist nationalist country?

The country is not liberal/progressive. It is conservative/centrist. Right now the conservatives and centrists are under represented because they elected Obama. But still the conservatives have exercized power on the town halls without adequate represetation.

We have had lousy governance from both sides of the political spectrum. The conservatives and centrists will now backlash by throwing out dome libs. Hopefully the worse of the elitest lib/progressives will go.


Maybe now Obama can get it. If he tries to be truly who those who elected him hoped he would be, if he throws aside the move ons and special interests and serves the people he could be the greatest president ever in our history. I believe the president is an actor. He is playing a role. Now it is about incentives. If he is incentivised to be the best, most loved president in American history he can shed this first six months of empowering Pelosi, Franks, Reid and Dodd. A real effort to do the right thing could be a game changer.

Build America
, make provisions and efforts for plentiful and cheap energy, natural gas and Nuclear for next 20 years should be good enough for greenies. Reducing cost of energy will fuel an economic recovery. Make sure whatever Oil we do use is produced here. If we cap oil use but produce it here such as in Ca and Fl those states will become solvent. Remember when libs said we were lying about China and Russia drilling 40 miles off our shores, well now it's happening.

Real economic recovery can be had by building zones like Du Bai has with taxes and assistance to developement. It would be fun to see businesses returning to USA.

You'll do a lot better at re-distributing wealth if there is a lot of it.


Instead of being Pelosi's and Franks and Dodd's and Reids foolish puppet.

As I wrote this I becane more and more dishearted, Obama I fear is really the worst of the lot, he isnt a pawn of Pelosi, Franks, Reid and Dodd he is the ringleader, the real SOCIALIST leader.

Saturday, August 15, 2009

WOW got to admit Colorado townhall was a win for Obama

WOW got to admit Colorado townhall was a win for Obama, he did vey well didnt trash any Doctors or insult any citizens. For the first time in a long time I was proud of my president.
Whoever preped him for this meeting,keephim and dump the other advisors.

Just spent an hour and a half trashing insurance companies. Well who loves insurance companies anyway?

OF course the public option company that Obama made sound so good will pay ACORN to be insurance agents, and of course have low compensation like Fannie Mae... they got $90,000,000 in bonuses after cooking the books NO? So why would you worry about ...a little public option company to keep the insurance companies honest?

We'll just let Barney franks supervise it, that will make it GOOOD.

"An editorial in The Wall Street Journal called it a "paltry settlement" which allowed Raines and the other two executives to "keep the bulk of their riches." In 2003 alone, Raines's compensation was over $20 million. "

Obama I have to admit had a great town hall, even I could believe in him for that hour and a half... except I dont see the Uniteds and Humanas as EVIL., unfortunately this wont be the best of Obama when we are done, it will be the worse of Franks, Reid, Pelosi and Pelosi, which somehow seems dangerous for the American people.

Obama seemed to accept the public option had some reasonal objections. OBAMA DROP THE PUBLIC OPTION and you will get more support. BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD ARE NON-profit work with them

If Obama steps away from the Public option he can get some universal support.

Obama Community Organizer meeting

Obama Community Organizer meeting

“Ok let your 13 year old daughter ask the “Mean Sign” question, then YOU can impersonate the Doctor and endorse the health plan, and Tina You’ll be the governor of Alaska, and retract your objections to the …DEATH PANELS. I’ll get that email list from G??gle, Ok let’s go get em, hit them twice as hard”

“We’ll bus in ACORN and Unions on Wenesday, make sure you prepare the literature on spontaneous demonstrations, I promissed them $600 a week”.

“I’ll schedule the private jets for us on thursday!”

“Oh remember the AL GORE doctrine, it’s ok to exagerate if it’s for their own good.”

Friday, August 14, 2009

Death Panels

The Senate has removed the provision for death panels.

I am diabetic, I see a doctor every 3 months. WHAT DOES THE PRESIDENT THINK HAPPENS when I see a doctor? My current primary care physician father was diabetic, he went through amputations. Mt doctor constantly urges me toward healthier lifestyles. He lectures me on dangers of being over weight, infections and possible amputations, eye deterioration kidneys etc.

He doesn't need a government mandate to do this. I now have seen a kidney specialist, he spoke to me in length about life style, limiting salt from my diet and other issues such as exercise. At their recommendations I bought an exercise machine and a WI Machine and a WI Fit program. This president is creating a bogus issue that doesn't exist, in my case, doctors council on preventative measures constantly. I am left wiyh deciding our president is mis informed or lying. Which do you think it is? WHAT DOES YOUR DOCTOR DO?

Reporting from Washington - A Senate panel has decided to scrap the part of its healthcare bill that in recent days has given rise to fears of government "death panels," with one lawmaker suggesting the proposal was just too confusing.

The Senate Finance Committee is taking the idea of advance care planning consultations with doctors off the table as it works to craft its version of healthcare legislation, a Democratic committee aide said Thursday.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, ranking Republican on the committee, said the panel dropped the idea because it could be "misinterpreted or implemented incorrectly."

For Democrats, the decision was an apparent acknowledgment that the provision had become a lightning rod for critics of a proposed overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system. Democratic lawmakers and President Obama are trying to extend health insurance to more people, rein in health costs and make other changes.

Recently, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speculated that Obama and other Democrats wanted to set up "death panels" to decide who gets medical services and who does not.

In reality, the provision was designed to allow Medicare to pay doctors who counsel patients about planning for end-of-life decisions. The consultations would be voluntary and would provide information about living wills, healthcare proxies, pain medication and hospice.

Thursday, August 13, 2009

keep them away from your children.

Obama and his supporters don't seem to mind encouraging their own 13 year old daughters to deceit and deception. Wonder what they would do to YOUR KIDS when they recruit their millions for America legions? I would suggest you keep them away from your children.


Obama: "Millions strong and well funded"

Scairy this is daughter of Obama campaign worker, and complete set up.

AMA politely refutes Obama LIES

AMA clarifies facts on recent examples highlighting amputation and tonsillectomies
The AMA contacted White House staff last night to again express strong concerns with some recent medical treatment examples used by President Obama. We've made it clear that physicians are extremely dedicated and focused—first, foremost and always—on providing care that best serves their patients.

We agree with President Obama on the importance of prevention. However, a recent example used to illustrate his important point was misleading. Surgeons are not paid $30,000 to $50,000 to amputate a diabetic's foot. Medicare pays a surgeon, on average, from $541.72 to $708.71 for one of two procedures involving a foot amputation. It is possible that the total bill, hospital stay, rehabilitation, prosthesis, etc. may approach the larger amount mentioned.

AMA response

Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Trash Talking President

I grew up in Chicago, in Chicago neighbohoods they are very prideful of talking "trash" as they call it. Obama has lived in an environment where they applaud anything TRASHY you say. So that's what we have a trash talking president.

Thats where you get "I'll Clean up their mess, butI don't have to listen to them while I do it" that's talking trash and people applauded their president talking trash, it may seem cute for a while, but you WILL get tired of it.

I heard enough of it years ago, so I am already weary of it. Its like shifting we dont like Canadas health care to "I dont know why they dont like Canadians, they think you are the boogy man", that's talking trash, ask Reverend Wright or professor (Your Momma) Gates, they'll explain it to you.

Talking Trash Web Site

Obama just won't shut up - How embarassed are you?


It wasn't enough that he accused Doctors of removing tonsils for no reason except a fee, now he is accusing Doctors of cutting off the feet of Diabetics just for a $30,000 fee. THIS MAN IS A TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT. God bless us what have we done?

This is something that goes on in Reverend Wrights church not the office of the presidency.

I'm diabetic, I live in continuing awareness of amputation, if my Doctor ever recommends it, am I supposed to listen to him or Obama? This man is totally insane, he has no moral footing. AND NO CLASS.

Why does this man keep going off the deep end?

It's because our press gives him a free ride. Do this country a service and start questioning this drivel.

I ask the media "Do you really want to be a party to this?"

If they had nailed him on the tonsil comment he would have shut up. Now what, does this vomit continue for 4-8 years?

There are 10,000,000 diabetics who should be totally pissed off. Half of them are probably lib/dems so they wont have enough sense/.

The man who says he wont interfere with your doctor patient relationship is already trashing it. How many amputees are now wondering if he is right?


-------------------------------Added 12.24 Am August 13-----------------------------
August 12th was my birthday and I spent all day furious at Obama for his comments. I sent this article to everyone I could think of and posted it all over the Web.

I am diabetic and I was horribly emotionally impacted by the presidents comments. It is my 67th birthday, and every time I go to my primary care physician he urges me to do better with weight, diet and the dangers of infection, gangrene and amputation.

I tried to put my mind around this thing with the president, to somehow understand what kind of person we have as president, I have failed to find any redeeming qualities. I cannot believe he is speaking to the citizens of this country in this manner. He thinks he is in Chicago where anything goes as long as you pay off the teachers and the unions.

Every time he opens his mouth he twists reality and I just don't know how we will survive him and his crew. Why doesn't he produce a list of these doctors and prosecute them?

The things he says isn't appropriate for anyone to say, coming from our president it is embarrassing, tawdry and so low class it is unimaginable why he isn't told to just shut up. His nonsense is emboldening all his cronies like Franks and Pelosi to the point this total government is a parody.

Government Motors VOLT and EPA

230 miles per gallon?

230 mpg for Chevy Volt? Not so fast, says EPA

Well why would they lie? GM will lie so they can generate a $7500 tax credit for a car that probably gets 40 miles per gallon.

I cant KNOW for real, but they obviously are only counting the gas you might put in your car if you drove 50 miles per day.

The "GAS" your utility burns while you recharge for 12 hours isnt counted so you get a "free" 40 mile a day.

I would also like to ask about air-conditioning and heat.
No engine no free heat, will have to use battery.
No engine no horsepower for air conditioning, will need electric air coonditioning and use battery.

Is the EPA another corrupt Obama agency?
Lest's see what they do about this!!!

Tort Reform

The BS congressmen want to say its 1-4% like thats an acceptable range and answer, well 4% of trillions becomes significanr.


Are we considering the total bill for liability insurance

1) Ambulances and paramedics
2) Hospitals, clinics
3) Doctors
4) Nurses
5) Drugstores
6) Pharmacists
5) Drug Companies
6) Equipment manufacturers
7) Medical suppliers, oxigen etc.
8) Rehab centers
9) Hospits
10) Senior care homes
11) In-home care

I doubt if anything I've seen covers the whole cost, Ive read reports and they are very vague, but what imbecile thinks mal-practice insurance is the only issue with health-care tort reform?

Tort reform should include generous limits but not atrocious amounts, and lawyers fees and limits should be limited in all areas of public interest where the public ends up footing the bill, such as police negligence. Why should the attourney "partner" with the vistim? If he takes case without fee unless settlement a reasonable bonus can be applied.

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

Lets just solve the issues NOTHING MORE

Remember all the charitable donations to medical care? Remember all of the religiously sponsored hospitals and heqlth care efforts? How long before the LIBS protest payments from the PUBLIC system to religious organizations?

1. A government pool for non-insurables, (previous conditions, birth defects) underwritten proportionately by all insurance companies with a premium tax.

2. All persons who can afford it must have at least catastrophic insurance, so that bankruptcy and other burdens are avoided. A catastrophic policy should be recommended by a panel, as to what is legitimate coverage.

3. Tort reform.

4. Raising to 130% of poverty level available for medicaid with esculating premiums.

5. Attack fraud. People on medicaid get requalified every 3 years.

The Stark Reality of the DEATH PANELS


if you have single payer system the government is on the hook for all the health care bills. They will take your money and pay the health care providers. As they expand the rolls to more and more people who don't pay taxes, others will pay more. As more and more taxes are collected for health care it puts pressure on taxes for other purposes, like luxury jets for congress.

As the pressure on taxes and tax payers increase, ways to reduce the bills must be found. There is no way to cut disbursements to ACORN and other liberal necessities, so what can we do?

We start squeezing the Doctors and Hospitals. Over a period of time the system contracts with less doctors and closing shrinking hospitals. This creates a shortage of health care resources. Seeing as there is no private sector,doctors will move to countries where they can make money. AND patience who can afford it will leave or get their health services in a private system if any are left in the world.

When shortages occur rationing will occur, someone will not get the care we currently enjoy. Most likely the elderly but probably everyone as in Canada and Britain.


Public Option Starts with government setting doctors and hospital rates, medicare is already 20% less than private ensure rates, so private insurers are already subsidizing public medicare / medicaid. Now only poverty individuals (medicaid) and retiree's (medicare) are in public system. Once a public option is available to everyone, and if the government continues to squeeze payments or gets even worse, they will for a time be able to offer cheaper insurance premiums. Insurers are making 2% so they wont have very much leeway to match government rates. Any changes to plans causes you to be forced into public option. Eventually, and probably not too long... you will be forced into scenario #1.


I don't believe Obama or any of his crew are being honest, they want single payer. They probably don't want rationing, but all evidence with such systems is they become bankrupt, doctors leave, hospital close, equipment isn't purchased and care is rationed. Once care is rationed common sense says the burden falls on the elderly.

OH maybe Barney Franks is honest for ONCE, he says this PUBLIC OPTION is best way to get single payer.

Homeland Security joins Obama Unethical Immoral Chicago Mob

Janet Politano joins Linda Douglas and others in the cabal of evil corrupt Obama MOB.

Obama's government declares "TAKE NO PRISONERS" war on his opponents. Every department of his government is corrupt.


Remember that report from Homeland Security of Terrorist Right Wing threats? Well the freedom of information act was used to get information. Was this from the FBI, the CIA? NO. Some clerk surfed the Internet and this was their "SOURCE". Obama and his Chicago thugs have sunk our National government to a new low. These reports from Homeland security claim "intelligence reports".

These people are scary, and without a real news media the USA citizen is at the mercy of their LIES. Anyone who believes 3 lies a day is an accident is naive. This is a culture of immorality that exceeds one's imagination.

Today the Freedom Of Information act had the Homeland Security turn over their research, basically someone searched the Internet for an hour. There was NO REPORTS FROM INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.

This was an Obama fabrication to demonize conservatives. More hate and fear mongering from the community organizer.

Homeland Security Warns of Rise in Right-Wing Extremism

An intelligence assessment released to law enforcement last week claims news of recession, the election of an African American president, rumors of new gun restrictions and the inability of veterans to reintegrate create fertile ground for radicalizing and recruiting right-wing extremists.

Statement by U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on the Threat of Right-Wing Extremism

The primary mission of this department is to prevent terrorist attacks on our nation. The document on right-wing extremism sent last week by this department’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis is one in an ongoing series of assessments to provide situational awareness to state, local and tribal law enforcement agencies on the phenomenon and trends of violent radicalization in the United States. I was briefed on the general topic, which is one that struck a nerve as someone personally involved in the Timothy McVeigh prosecution.

Right-wing extremists seen as a threat
A Homeland Security report says right-wing groups are on the rise because of fears about Obama and the recession.
By Greg Miller
April 16, 2009

LA Times

Reporting from Washington — The economic downturn and the election of the nation's first black president are contributing to a resurgence of right-wing extremist groups, which had been on the wane since the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, according to a U.S. intelligence assessment distributed to state and local authorities last week.

The report, produced by the Department of Homeland Security, has triggered a backlash among conservatives because it also raised the specter that disgruntled veterans returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan might "boost the capabilities of extremists . . . to carry out violence."


The report said extremist groups may try to attract veterans returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It also said extremists also may use the recession and the election of the nation's first African-American president to recruit members.

Monday, August 10, 2009

Silver tongue and community agitater

When asked about some USA citizens being negative about Canadian Health care he turned it into a pesonal class warfare event, "I dont know why they think Canadians are are the boogey man" turning it into something personal and confrontational. This is the over trained community organizer at his best.

"They" of course is us conservatives. Obama immediately changes to personal HATE. He has a philosophy of us and them,,, And of couurse he won, that means ALL THE CHIPS as far as he is concerned.


Flag This


Chicago Political Boss - Shut Up while I lie to you

OBAMA: "I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking," the president graciously announced. "I want them just to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess."

Which mess was that, the economy which Barney Franks and Chris Dodd screwed up?

Expelled From the New York Times by Obama supporters

Expelled From the New York Times

By Ben Stein on 8.10.09 @ 6:09AM

"But the two main things, as I see them, were that I started criticizing Mr. Obama quite sharply over his policies and practices. I had tried to do this before over the firing of Rick Wagoner from the Chairmanship of GM. My column had questioned whether there was a legal basis for the firing by the government, what law allowed or authorized the federal government to fire the head of what was then a private company, and just where the Obama administration thought their limits were, if anywhere. This column was flat out nixed by my editors at the Times because in their opinion Mr. Obama inherently had such powers. "


An indication of the chance we might have of any honest reporting.

MAYBE not entirely unwaranted

Undue Influence
The House Bill Skews End-of-Life Counsel

By Charles Lane
Saturday, August 8, 2009

Though not mandatory, as some on the right have claimed, the consultations envisioned in Section 1233 aren't quite "purely voluntary," as Rep. Sander M. Levin (D-Mich.) asserts. To me, "purely voluntary" means "not unless the patient requests one." Section 1233, however, lets doctors initiate the chat and gives them an incentive -- money -- to do so. Indeed, that's an incentive to insist.

Patients may refuse without penalty, but many will bow to white-coated authority. Once they're in the meeting, the bill does permit "formulation" of a plug-pulling order right then and there. So when Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) denies that Section 1233 would "place senior citizens in situations where they feel pressured to sign end-of-life directives that they would not otherwise sign," I don't think he's being realistic


This provision is under cost savings so it is pretty cllear it is meant to discuorage treatments.

Margaret Sanger
Founder of Planned Parenthood

In Her Own Words

"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

Copyright © 2001 Diane S. Dew

Margaret Sanger (1883-1966)
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On sterilization & racial purification:
Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.

On the right of married couples to bear children:
Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932

On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)


Eugenics was practiced around the world and was promoted by governments, and influential individuals and institutions. Its advocates regarded it as a social philosophy for the improvement of human hereditary traits through the promotion of higher reproduction of certain people and traits, and the reduction of reproduction of certain people and traits.[6]

Today it is widely regarded as a brutal movement which inflicted massive human rights violations on millions of people.[7] The "interventions" advocated and practised by eugenicists involved prominently the identification and classification of individuals and their families, including the poor, mentally ill, blind, "promiscuous" women, homosexuals and entire "racial" groups——such as the Roma and Jews——as "degenerate" or "unfit"; the segregation or institutionalisation of such individuals and groups, their sterilization, euthanasia, and in the extreme case of Nazi Germany, their mass extermination.[8]

Let's make it clear

Remember the slogan, "it's about the economy stupid."
Well everyone it isnt about health care....

It's about Socialism, Stupid.
And that is what scares us.

Libs, Barney Franks, Pelosi, Obama want single payer health care. Not because they care about health care. They want the BIGGEST government they can get. The libs/progressives have traded in their belief of GOD for science, and their math seems to support the collective. If government owned everything they could distribute it "Fairly". Where fairly is what the elitists see as fair.

They see a overcrowded world with weak uneducated persons cluttering up the MOTHER EARTH. Don't worry about what you HEAR, worry about what these people say amongst themselves, Persons in Obama's cabinet believe that weeding out children up to the age of 2-5 is ok.

This isn't about health care PER SE, it's about how they can change this country into a socialist country, they believe they can do that by gaining just a little more leverage. Health care, union enhancement, editorial censorship.

Maybe we should be socialist, but it should happen during an open discussion, not a subversive slight of hand.

Sunday, August 9, 2009


Note that here is provided firm documentation that the 3 basic premises of Obama Care are false, probably out and out lies. This is why the public dosnt support Obama Care. Even if you can question this presentation, you cant question how it impacts the debate for the USA citizen. This isnt a smoke screen fabricated by talk radio. This is a real question of where these peoples heads and hearts really are.

Most of the arguments for health care reform are unwarranted. We do pay more. AND WE GET MORE. Reducing costs would be nice, but there is no evidence we will do that.

So why do libs want to run health care? It puts trillions of dollars thru their hands. It allows government to add thousands of employees to administer it. It will add these employees to union and voting rolls. AND CONTROL. they just seem to want to control everything. The American exceptionalism seems to infuriate them. I think there is ANT DNA in their heritage.

1...Lying about health insurers profits

Pelosi calls profits immoral, yet they are an industry wide 2.2%. Is she mistaken? No she knows the facts, what she IS is deranged and immoral herself. She is a typical lib, lying to us for our own good.

Obama probably knows better, but he is trained and ingrained to promote class warfare, it's in his DNA.

2...Lying about wanting a one payer system

There is no reason to believe Obama has changed from his adamant positions on supporting single payer system. Barney Franks has said this program is a step toward single payer. They feel they can trick the country into single payer, Barney says you cant sell a single payer system but you can cheat and lie to get it.

3...Lying about uninsured, not 50, and probably not 15 million are uninsured and need some assistance.


Unless you try hospital in Chicago where Michelle Obama's worked, they re-route emergency room users.

Who is really uninsured?


■The Census Bureau estimates that 45.7 million lacked health insurance at any given time in 2007. But fewer lacked coverage for the full year, and more did without for one or more months during the year. All three numbers are likely to be higher for 2008 due to massive job losses.

■Twenty-six percent of the uninsured are eligible for some form of public coverage but do not make use of it, according to The National Institute for Health Care Management Foundation. This is sometimes, but not always, a matter of choice.

■Twenty-one percent of the uninsured are immigrants, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. But that figure includes both those who are here legally and those who are not. The number of illegal immigrants who are included in the official statistics is unknown.

■Twenty percent of the uninsured have family incomes of greater than $75,000 per year, according to the Census Bureau. But this does not necessarily mean they have access to insurance. Even higher-income jobs don’t always offer employer-sponsored insurance, and not everyone who wants private insurance is able to get it.

■Forty percent of the uninsured are young, according to KFF. But speculation that they pass up insurance because of their good health is unjustified. KFF reports that many young people lack insurance because it’s not available to them, and people who turn down available insurance tend to be in worse health, not better, according to the Institute of Medicine

When your doctor is overly zealous in caring for you

Letting your Doctor know that the government statistics dosnt agree with his reccomended treatment, OH WELL THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE!! Certainly this dosnt intrude inthe doctor patient relationship. It does assume that your doctor is incompetent and overly zealous in caring for you. I assume incompetent Doctors would get paid less, like teachers YES, NO?

You can do your share for the collective and go home and take your pain pill.

Obama Quote:

And all we're suggesting -- and we're not going to solve every difficult problem in terms of end-of-life care. A lot of that is going to have to be, we as a culture and as a society starting to make better decisions within our own families and for ourselves. But what we can do is make sure that at least some of the waste that exists in the system that's not making anybody's mom better, that is loading up on additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care, that at least we can let doctors know and your mom know that, you know what? Maybe this isn't going to help. Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.


Note that is regardless of your doctor and your opinion. You may consider a year worth it and the gov does not. WE DONT WANT THE GOV ANYWHERE NEAR THE DIAGNOSIS.

There is a person impersonating the President making believe he is for a single payer heath care system.

There is a person impersonating the President making believe he is for a single payer heath care system.

Pelosi and Obama LYING???

he is ALMOST saying Pelosi and Obama are LYING to the people.

((((So it is disappointing, to say the least, to see Ms. Pelosi and other Democrats revert to round-up-the-usual-suspects demagoguery. President Obama has been more restrained but hardly more accurate; in a news conference last month, he inaccurately complained about insurers making "record profits, right now." In fact, among U.S. industries generally and other parts of the health sector in particular, insurers are not particularly profitable. The latest Fortune 500 ranking of most profitable industries has pharmaceuticals third, medical products and equipment fourth, and health insurers down at No. 35. Drugmakers reported a 19.3 percent profit margin; insurers, 2.2 percent. ))))

wow sounds like he is ALMOST saying Pelosi and Obama are LYING to the people. They wouldnt do that just to jin up class warfare would they??

Seems like lying to the PEOPLE for their own good al la AL Gore is OK, YES? NO?